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Frostzilla Stats

Jeffrey Icehunter added the stats, I just made the page show both sets.

ErinEmeraldflame 22:51, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

OK, I'll talk to him Katherine Deathpants 23:30, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

I have one

I have a Frostzilla. I can show you in the game if you want. Jeffrey Icehunter 00:15, October 17, 2010 (UTC)--Jeffrey Icehunter

OK. Either that or post a screenshot, I'm logging in now Katherine Deathpants 00:19, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

The thing I think some people don't yet understand about pet stats is that there are default stats for the pet as a species, and then the stats it actually gets varies. It's a difference of genotype versus phenotype (if you've had Biology class maybe these terms are familiar). Ice Hound (Hybrid)'s page has the same problem in that the "alternate" stats were obviously taken from a screenshot of File:Shadow's stats now.jpg rather than the equip menu (File:Picture 2010-08-18 14-32-36.jpg). I'm hoping this gets across to other editors eventually that only equip menu stats are consistent. Katherine Deathpants 01:30, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

New Look

We didn't mention it, but Potroast42 put some effort into making the new page look presentable in terms of colors and such. It was horrible for us to continue looking at their original page all the time (we had to go back and forth to check things a lot).

EnlightenedShadow and Electrode soon will have a surprise that we hope will be even nicer, where we have functionality and appearance together. :)

ErinEmeraldflame 23:08, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

Okay. NICE! You guys got it goin' on. Katherine Deathpants 13:35, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

Doom Scurrier

They are starting to look very similar. I would love to find someone who had a Doom Scurrier before the update. That way we can see whether KingsIsle changed the name of their pet (making it a name change) or just made a new, same, pet with a different name (making it a replacement). The difference between actual name changes and replacement pets/items is crucial for how we handle it on the wiki. If its a name change, we can set up a redirect. If its a replacement, we may reference that by making one "Retired" and having links between them on their pages (or set up a redirect but have a fancy message related the history).

I really wish that they had put these details in their update notes like they have in previous updates.

Are you on Central?

Thanks, :) ErinEmeraldflame 02:17, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Pet Abilities

Hi, do you think you could update the talents and derby abilities pages with what pets have them when you update those pet pages?

I don't think I can keep up on my own with all the ones you've added.

Pretty please? :) ErinEmeraldflame 02:20, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Doom Scurrier Suggestion and Thanks :)

I was going to suggest maybe starting a thread that says "Who had a Doom Scurrier before the pet update?", all you need to find is one person :) And then you can ask them in thread or though a message directly to them to see if the name changed. :)

And thanks :), its sooo hard keeping up with those.

ErinEmeraldflame 02:24, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blade Flurry

Um... what is it? I mean, what is the item that gives that spell?

ErinEmeraldflame 04:28, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Auto-populating pages

They do have Wiki code out there that can do what you suggested, its called semantic wiki or something like that. Unfortunately, its not really available to us right now. :( My understanding (which is possibly incomplete) is that it requires a lot more bandwidth and server in order to use, and its not offered on Wikia or the other available free hosting sites. (Basically its a database more than a standard wiki)

So yeah, we would LOVE if the talent pages would auto-populate from the pet pages too!!! It would also allow the same thing for the item pages from the creatures, and automatic alphabetizing of lists, and a bunch of other really cool things... Maybe if we got a wealthy private sponsor?


ErinEmeraldflame 04:39, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Frost Hound

Hello. It looks as though you added the Frost Hound picture. Do you by any chance have a Frost Hound and like to hatch?

Thanks. --Elizabeth DragonRider 04:40, October 24, 2010 (UTC)


You are correct :) There are possible ways to try to start incorporating lookup functions between different pages on the wiki. We've talked a little about what we could use them for, though are main goal has been to get everything into templates first. This is partly because we have to have everything in predictable, standardized templates to start using any page to page code. Its also because we're trying to stop the need for admins to change thousands of pages every time we want a little formatting or category change :)

Once we get everything in templates we do want to start trying to have that done. Though we have to see how much code like that would weigh down the pages/wiki. We may try to have the treasure card pages automatically make the enchantment stats from the base spell pages. :)

Another thing that will help us develop something like that is after everything is in templates, we hope to design forms for page-creation and possibly page editing, so all you have to do to make a new page is enter information in an easy-to-use form. If we can do that, having one change affect multiple pages might be easier as well. :)

But ultimately, we are always happy to get more expertise involved on the wiki. We're just volunteer admins who've learned this code through being admins lol. Though we've also been really really dedicated to get all this done in such a short time (i.e. some of us getting 1000 edits per week lol).

There is also a way to alphabetize, but it is really painful code, since you have to loop the code to make individual comparisons between each item in the list, its just not something the mediawiki code is designed to do easily unfortunately. So for ten lines, you need 44 comparisons, for 20 lines you need 189, and for 50 I don't even want to add that up (and each comparison may be more than one line of code).

) ErinEmeraldflame 05:13, October 24, 2010 (UTC)



Jeffrey Icehunter 06:32, October 24, 2010 (UTC)Jeffrey Icehunter

Fierce Hound? HOLY COW! Post a screenshot! Get some stats, man! Do you know the parents? Where did you find it? Katherine Deathpants 06:38, October 24, 2010 (UTC)


Ok, done with the caps lock. It was live, I posted the pic on the page. I am assuming you can get there lol.

Jeffrey Icehunter 07:00, October 24, 2010 (UTC)Jeffrey Icehunter

Fierce Hound

The Fierce Hound is from the new Epic Gift Card from Gamestop. Some people already have it.

Here's what the card comes with:

1. A 1 Month Subscription at $9.95 or 5000 Crowns 2. Fantasy Palace Castle 3. Additional Castle Space Elixir* 4. Minigame Kiosk Housing Item 5. Gryphon Mount6. Ancient Spear of Power 7. Epic Clothing Set 8. Mystery Dueling Pet

It costs $39.

--Elizabeth DragonRider 09:55, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blade Furry.

Is it a Talent? I can't tell what it is, here is link,Blade Flurry you made it so I think you know whats best for it ;).

Happy Halloween!User:Death Lord 17:24, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Well Trained :)

ok, thanks for clarifying. Though, the page was deleted before because it had no content, not whether it was a valid page name :)

ErinEmeraldflame 18:53, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Pet Talents and Abilities

Thanks Katherine :)

Something that may help, when you are on a Talent's page, try clicking the "What Links Here" button at the bottom of the page, that should give you a proxy list of all the pets that are referencing that talent.

ErinEmeraldflame 20:11, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Doom Scurrier Redirect

Hi, I redirected the Doom Scurrier page to the Black Spider page and edited the Black Spider page to reflect that. I left the code on the Doom Scurrier page intact so if anyone ever says "Hey, I have a Doom Scurrier still!" we just have to delete the REDIRECT line from the Doom Scurrier page and it will be restored.

Thanks :) ErinEmeraldflame 21:00, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the Wall Trained page, was wondering why it got deleted.

Doom Scurrier

So, I messaged Misthead to clarify a question about it and found out he never had the Doom Scurrier but that he has had the Black Spider a long time I guess, so I'm still satisfied (since its older than the pet update and sounds like it was from the massive name change done back around the time DS was released). Boy, a lot of the time on Central its really hard to get clear answers on things lol.

Thanks for filling in all the rarer pet talents :)

ErinEmeraldflame 03:21, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

Some weird problem

After you edit, it says,"Edited _ agoby _" (_=time/person)Check Sunbird--You just got pwned!!! (So did I) 03:39, October 25, 2010 (UTC) I meant in general for editors and people viewing the pgs. { Same person posting)<-]-SubterraAce -

Fierce Hound

The Fierce Hound is the "mystery dueling pet". It has some awesome talents.


Hi, what exactly are you doing with Distract?

- Administrator EnlightenedShadow 04:32, October 27, 2010 (UTC)


Nevermind I figured it out lol.

New Announcement

New Announcement at Forum:Official Moving Announcement.

Just thought I would make sure you saw it. (your like the only one on right now lol)

- Administrator EnlightenedShadow 05:08, October 27, 2010 (UTC)

Contributions lost

Don't worry we will give you plenty of notice before we move sections. I believe that Potroast wants to ask you a question about that as well but he's not on and I'm not sure if he does or not. :)

- Administrator EnlightenedShadow 05:21, October 27, 2010 (UTC)


Ah, I found the message:

Hello, we admins are assembling a team to help move content from this wiki to the new one. We would like to extend an invitation to you to join us in this process. If you accept we will give you the special permissions needed to access the new wiki and specific instructions on how to move pages (a fairly simple process). We will then ask which section you would like to move and let you begin moving the pages.

Of course we will be right there along with everyone doing our best to get it all moved and if you have any questions or need assistance we will only be a short message away.

This is completely up to you, and we will respect your decision. However we would like to say that we are going to need help, and you are one of our top contributors. Please consider it and let us know.

I feel like you would be perfect for Pets :)

- Administrator EnlightenedShadow 05:32, October 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Count me in!

Thanks so much for helping :) We will let you know as soon as were ready to move the pages and have the permissions ready. For now make sure you have an account on W101C and let me know what it is. This account will also be used for the wiki so make sure your name is what you want :)

- Administrator EnlightenedShadow 19:47, October 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Katherine Deathpants

OK we will see to it that you are added to the "Movers" group :)

- Administrator EnlightenedShadow 19:54, October 27, 2010 (UTC)

Moving Delays

Seems we weren't able to get the Usernames for the Movers group added. It's being a pain as with everything we have done so far. We will try again tomorrow.

- Administrator EnlightenedShadow 07:57, October 29, 2010 (UTC)


What is your Central name again? Make sure to spell it perfect so I can have it added.

- Administrator EnlightenedShadow 08:02, October 29, 2010 (UTC)


We tried that. How old is your account? We may have to add it manually. If it's less than 2 months old then yeah we got a account creation problem. I will have to discuss it with Jester and come up with a solution.

- Administrator EnlightenedShadow 08:08, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Username issue

Yeah ok then it's a account creation issue. On August 2nd Jester took all the accounts on Central and added them to the Central wiki. We thought after that it would be automatic but I guess not.

- Administrator EnlightenedShadow 08:17, October 29, 2010 (UTC)


Correct, exactly, Death-Giver came from your Wraith. If its first egg learned it, other eggs should have a higher potential for learning it, especially if hatched with another Wraith who has already learned Death-Giver (proving it also has a better potential to learn it). Unfortunately, that is SHOULD, there are no guarantees. PunkyMax 20:07, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

New info on Movers group

Hey, it seems that you should be a user already but it's not finding you for some reason. Jester has requested that you visit the site of the wiki here: www.wizard101central.com/wiki and log in. It still won't let you view any pages but were hoping it will activate your account and make it available to change groups.

Please let me know when you do so and try to do it quickly so I can get back to him. Thanks.

- Administrator EnlightenedShadow 20:18, October 29, 2010 (UTC)


We actually thought of that a long time ago but, we are moving to a new system of page names. For every page it will have the type in the name. Ex: Creature:Agony Wraith and Spell:Fire Cat.

The reason we are doing this is because although it's different and will take some time to get used to, it will pay off in the long run by letting us sort edits and solving the need for disambiguation pages. For example, no more Helephant (Spell). All spells will be Spell:Helephant.

- Administrator EnlightenedShadow 20:25, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Logging in

Thanks, I'll let Jester know so he can try again.

- Administrator EnlightenedShadow 20:28, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Your in

Hey, Jester got it. You can now access the new wiki. Please start moving Creatures D-G when your ready.

Here's the procedure:

Step 1) On Wikia, Open page you want to move, click edit, and copy contents.

Step 2) On Central, Go to: http://www.wizard101central.com/wiki/Special:CreatePage and enter new page name (ex: Creature:Agony Wraith)

Step 3) Paste contents, delete image lines (and bazaar for items), and save.

Step 4) Go on to next page and repeat steps 1-3.

If you have questions please let me or User:Potroast42 know and we will be glad to help.

- Administrator EnlightenedShadow 22:21, October 29, 2010 (UTC)


Umm... They should be good to go by the end of the day, but I need to fix up the associated templates first.

--Potroast42 17:36, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

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